Wintersun - Time I (19.10.12)

[Fhqwhgads]

alterfalter, 2014 soviel zu ein paar monaten

Na dann dauert es ja nur noch bis 2020.

[RatSawGod]

Time II kommt März 2014 (vielleicht, so richtig festlegen darf man sich da ja nicht).

Bisher bekannte Tracks: The Way Of The Fire, One With The Shadows, Storm, Silver Leaves.
Aha Ich hoffe das stimmt überhaupt. Wenn nicht, isses vermutlich auch egal.

[RatSawGod]

NEUER SONG NEUER SONG NEUER SONG

... und zwar von Time II :logik:
http://www.y*utube.com/watch?v=Qm7BVwquIlY#at=196
(is aber nur live)

klingt schon mal toll

[RatSawGod]

Here's the reality. TIME I & II and even couple of the next albums would have been out already, if I would have a studio. BUT I don't have a studio. Studio is like an instrument of making music and I don't have that instrument, so it's pretty fucking hard to make albums, especially as complicated as the TIME albums are. TIME II is in good place mixwise, it's sounding pretty damn spectacular, but there are still some difficult obstacles I'm battling with. Tuska Festival weekend is coming and I´m gonna get wasted! I've been working nonstop since January (and not just the TIME II, new material and there´s some other new things boiling under as well). So don't come ask me at Tuska “when's TIME II coming out?” hahah! Unless you buy me a beer!

https://www.facebook.com/jari.maenpa...30289473696564

[RatSawGod]

Reality Update About Crowd Funding, TIME II And Future Albums

I´m very happy to see that we have so much dedicated fans that would be willing to pledge and be a part of funding a studio for Wintersun, so I could make the next Wintersun album without it taking another 10 years again.

I´ve been thinking about this Kickstarter/Pledge crowd funding thing for a while and I´m very confident now that there is enough of you guys that would help us raise the money for the Wintersun studio! This would give me the freedom to make music efficiently and nonstop. It would eliminate lot of the problems I´ve struggled with all my life and still continue to struggle everyday. For example right now I need a studio to reamp guitars for TIME II. And not just any studio, my own studio where I can craft my sounds exactly like I want them. 3rd party studios have never worked for me and I´ve never gotten satisfactory results for the insane prices they charge.

I live in a small shitty apartment building and I have neighbors. It is very very hard to work like this. I can´t record vocals, I can´t practise my singing, I can´t record guitars, I can´t record guitars even with modelling amps, because the electricity is so bad in this shitty building so I get lots of interference, I even play and practise the electric guitar acoustically without an amp 99% of the time in my home, I can´t record drums or basically any acoustic instruments, I don´t have the room or cool space for a big computer farm which is a must for the orchestrations for the next album (the place is too small and hot even for the one computer I have), I can´t mix properly, ´cause the room is so bad and there´s always ambient noise in and outside the building. That´s why I usually turn my sleeping rhythm around and mix at nights, but that causes problems in my everyday life. I can´t do pretty much anything properly in this situation. Building a professional studio for Wintersun would erase all this and give us the freedom to make music nonstop. It would upgrade our album sound significantly and most importantly speed up the album making process significantly. This would even raise our live game. With proper preproduction, able to tweak our live sounds and setup properly we would sound pretty incredible live. We would also be able to rehearse more and that would allow us to be able to play live more often and come to places where we normally have not been able to come. The studio would allow us to have more time for everything.

But the problem is this. I have a record deal with Nuclear Blast. If I would do a Kickstarter with a downloadable album for example, they would come with lawyers and take % share (more than half) away from the money that is your money meant for the Wintersun studio and the album production. Would you even want to pledge if Wintersun didn´t get 100% of the money you´ve pledged for the album production? Then our management would take their % share away. Then there´s taxes of course. The Finnish government would take something like 40% away. This would leave me nothing. I would be totally screwed. I´ve been trying to have a discussion with Nuclear Blast about crowd funding, but they are totally freaking out. They see the crowd funding as a threat to their business and they would rather see Wintersun dead, than me doing a crowd funding. I think this would not hurt them at all, only benefit them, but they cannot see the big picture of Wintersun doing well. They actually told me point blank that I should just stop making music and they will never release Wintersun from the contract. It´s really like this, because they can´t or won´t loan me enough money to build a studio and fund an album, they don´t want other people (the fans) to fund it either… unless they get a crazy big cut of the funding (for doing absolutely nothing).

This is the way a record deal works: The label gives an advance to make an album. This is a loan and they will recoup every penny back from the record sales. The reason why TIME I&II has taken so long to make (and still is taking long to finish TIME II), is because I haven´t gotten enough advances (money) to make these complex albums. Not even close. So I´ve been struggling all these years and sacrificed everything to make these albums. I have never really made any money from Wintersun. All my money has gone to album production, but you can guess who have made tons of money from Wintersun. The point is that I need my own studio to make the future albums, but Nuclear Blast won´t be able to loan enough money to make that happen and then they won´t allow me to do a crow funding campaign either that would make it happen. And even if Nuclear Blast would be able to loan me the money for the studio, our management would take their share of that money and I would get only part of the money, but I would still have to pay back 100% to Nuclear Blast from the record sales. So I would actually lose big chunk of the album production money straight away, which makes no sense at all. And then there´s the taxes. So there´s no point of taking these “loans” either.

This all is stressing me out very badly and it´s slowing my workflow. I´ve got enough technical problems to deal with making these albums. I just want the freedom to make music, but I guess it is what it is. Honestly, I feel like I´ve signed a deal with the devil and I´m just a slave in the system.

I´ve got probably 5 long albums worth of new insanely good material! And there´s no filler material at all! The music is much more refined, much more advanced in arrangement/composition/productionwise. It´s diverse and beautiful, heavy, chaotic and exploring different styles&themes and some new dimensions I feel no band has explored before… The stuff is simply on another level, in a different universe than the debut album and the TIME albums combined. I wrote the TIME albums around 2006 and before, that was a lifetime ago. Think of the stuff I´ve written ever since to this day! And I just keep on writing, I feel like I´m on fire. The music is just flowing out of me. I´m so excited about all this new music and I can´t wait to start recording and sharing it with you… BUT I can´t without a studio, that´s the problem…

Jari

p.s. Should have stayed working in the post office!

[RatSawGod]

für wintersun würd ich mir vielleicht sogar den rest antun

[Soul]

Hmmm...Die Extended Show in Wien klingt verlockend

[RatSawGod]

wintersun spielen auf dem paganfest einen neuen song, forest: http://www.metalsucks.net/2015/03/23...w-song-forest/


und beim suchen gesehen, dass es ja schon mal nen wintersun-thread gab http://www.ioff.de/showthread.php?t=146516


gehste denn nu hin, soul?

[RatSawGod]

post ichs eben, damit wir was zu lachen haben : https://www.metal1.info/metal-news/w...tel-enthuellt/

[Soul]

[RatSawGod]

time II ist dann wohl tot

[RatSawGod]

es gibt bereits eine tracklist

https://www.metal1.info/metal-news/w...album-details/

[Fhqwhgads]

es gibt bereits eine tracklist

https://www.metal1.info/metal-news/w...album-details/

Dann kann es sich ja nur noch um Jahrzehnte handeln

Ich warte nur darauf, dass es Time II nur als bonus Cd in der auf 40 Stück limitierten Mailorder Edition gibt.

Ich bin immer noch stinkig, dass ich die Mailorder Version von Time I verpasst hatte.

[Soul]

https://www.facebook.com/wintersun/p...021906122402:0

ABOUT THE FOREST SEASONS ALBUM
This album is more primitive and organic than I normally like to do, but still modern, melodic, epic, bombastic yet also dark and dare I say even shocking and we love it! It is new and different, ´cause I don´t like doing the same thing over and over, but it's still very much a Wintersun album - although Wintersun can be anything, even techno/trance/pop... There are no limits with the music of Wintersun!
It is a longer album than TIME I running over 53 minutes and for once I´m 100% happy with the sounds and the production. The sound fits PERFECTLY for this album! This album actually sounds great in every sound system / speakers / headphones I've listened to it! If you are a Wintersun fan you won´t be disappointed! It has everything you would expect from a Wintersun album, that we can promise you! And if you're not a fan, you might like it anyway, because it has lot of variety and new dimensions to our sound and style.
'The Forest Seasons' album was something that I could do with my current resources, but it doesn't take anything away how great the album is. Because it is killer! And music isn't measured in money. Album costing hundred bucks or a million bucks can be equally good albums. (But the unfortunate thing is that certain albums can only be done with higher end production and then again some albums would sound like shit with a big budget production and vice versa, some albums would sound like shit with low budget production and some albums would sound killer with low budget production!)
The album has four epic and monumental songs, all very different, but still merging together perfectly like the season changes. Two of the songs, 'Awaken From The Dark Slumber (Spring)' and 'Eternal Darkness (Autumn)' are multipart songs like 'Starchild' and 'Sons of Winter and Stars'.
AWAKEN FROM THE DARK SLUMBER (SPRING)
'Awaken From The Dark Slumber (Spring)' is the starting track. It's a very energetic song illustrating the awakening of nature and it will build up to a big climax! (This song has this album's "killer riff"... forest style!)
THE FOREST THAT WEEPS (SUMMER)
'The Forest That Weeps (Summer)' is the summer song. It's atmospheric, melodic and rockin'! It's also enhanced with big choirs celebrating the end of summer, before the autumn darkness takes over.
ETERNAL DARKNESS (AUTUMN)
'Eternal Darkness (Autumn)' is the darkest Wintersun track to date! It paints a dark mood illustrating the Finnish autumn, when you hardly see any sun at all. But ultimately the song is about death... with a twist that some of the parts are written from death's point of view and how IT sees life... as a mistake in the universe. It's an epic and long four part song describing four phases of dying.
LONELINESS (WINTER)
I'm really proud of all the songs, but especially the last song called 'Loneliness (Winter)' is what I´m really proud of. I really hit it out of the ballpark with this one, even if I do say so myself. It's little like 'Silver Leaves' (on TIME II), but more sorrowful and darker song with really cold winterish vibe where as 'Silver Leaves' is more beautiful, oriental, atmospheric.
I really think that this is my first PERFECT ALBUM I've ever done. It all came together just right!
We sincerely hope you will support us by getting the new album from INDIEGOGO on March 1st, included in our crowdfunding package, the FOREST PACKAGE. This will help us to reach our goal which is to build the Wintersun Headquarters studio, completing TIME II once and for all and start making our future albums!
Thank you!
Jari & the Wintersun boys

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Klingt aber wirklich vielversprechend Und Time II wird später auch noch fertiggestellt...also vielleicht.

[RatSawGod]

klingt wirklich nach trump vor allem das "sounds great in every sound system / speakers / headphones"

das soll schon am ersten märz erscheinen, dafuq.
time II kommt danach.

ohman, ich hasse es, dass er aus wintersun so einen witz macht und die musik dabei so toll ist.

"Wintersun can be anything, even techno/trance/pop" achso